Elena Apalkova and Alexander Karp explore Alexander's journey with chronic pain and his discovery of Kratom as a crucial element in his healing process. They discuss his first experience with Kratom, its consistent quality, and the long-term holistic benefits that he experienced. Alexander shares personal success stories and his transition into the Kratom business, highlighting Kratom's positive impact on mental health and providing an overview of Ethan Naturals products. The conversation touches on personal dosing, industry standards, and the role of the American Kratom Association, concluding with thoughts on Kratom as a jungle botanical and insights into upcoming episodes.