“With the means you have, do the best you can.”

Last week our dynamic pair left off in the middle of an excellent, quasi-introductory episode to veganism, where both shared their personal journeys contending with the lifestyle and their reasons for adopting or not adopting it. This week we’re diving right back in to tackle a few more specific topics related to veganism, including veganism for health versus ethics, some societal double standards, veganism as a public health issue, and how veganism and spirituality intersect for the best, and for the worst.

Lorena kicks off the episode with a discussion of environmentalism and veganism and how the two are forever intertwined, including bringing up the topic of zoonotic viruses during the time of a global pandemic, and how oxymoronic the concept of “humane slaughter” is when the point of such a lifestyle is to do no harm. She then laments over the hypocrisy of being seen as “in your face” for standing up for what is right while she has to deal with how ubiquitous and normalized animal products are every single day.

Kelly then jumps in to point out the parallels between veganism and feminism and how both rely on a sense of becoming through knowledge, and how the labeling of “obnoxious” is probably much more insidious and purposeful than it seems. Both agree, as always, that what matters the most is that we own our hypocrisies by realizing these fights - social justice, environmental or otherwise - are about so much more than our individual selves, but the betterment of every living thing on our wee planet.

Go vegan for the month of January with Veganuary: www.veganuary.com // Documentaries mentioned: Cowspiracy (www.cowspiracy.com), Land of Hope and Glory (www.landofhopeandglory.org) // Books mentioned: Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer (https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/jonathan-safran-foer/eating-animals/9780316069885/)  // Instagram accounts mentioned: @thedodo @goatsofanarchy // Ed Winters (Earthling Ed) Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVRrGAcUc7cblUzOhI1KfFg
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