Episode 65: Show Notes Today on the show, we welcome Justin Vacula, who takes us through an introduction to a master's in maximizing gambling opportunities from a points and miles perspective. Justin is an accomplished travel ‘hacker’ and host of the Hurdy Gurdy Travel Podcast, among other achievements. In our conversation today, we delve into the cross between miles, points, and gambling, unpack the advantages of using casino cards, when it’s a good time to sign up for these cards, and dive into a discussion on how Caesar’s credit cards stack up against MGM cards. Justin breaks down all things Vegas, what you need to know about the ground truth, how Vegas is like Disney World for adults, why he doesn’t interact with minibars, and why there will ultimately be some work involved to maximize your trip. He gives insights into his phone army and how to play different games on different phones to get points. We also hear about his contributions to various travel-related conferences, how to prepare for Zorkfest, why Dave Ramsey is not accurate for everyone, and why he strives to educate people to make informed choices about the positives and negatives of loyalty programs. For all this, and more, including his experience gambling on the seas, be sure to start listening now.  Key Points From This Episode: [00:45] We are introduced to today’s guest, Justin Vacula. [02:30] Travel hacking: the cross between miles, points, and gambling. [03:45] Leveraging different gambling loyalties: how to utilize them uniquely. [05:30] What a 2-5% advantage means when you load a card. [07:00] Justin breaks down his online blackjack strategy. [09:10] The advantages of using recently released casino cards. [13:00] A good time to sign up for these cards: start planning out for 2026. [14:05] How Caesar’s credit cards stack up against the MGM cards. [16:10] A PSA on the Wyndam card. [17:25] We talk all things Vegas: the ground truth. [21:10] Justin’s phone army: playing different games on different phones to get points. [27:00] His personal rule: do not interact with minibars. [28:09] Vegas as an adult version of Disney World: sacrifice to maximize. [31:25] Justin’s contributions through conferences. [35:45] Preparing for Zorkfest. [37:30] Travel interfering with other travel: a nice problem to have. [39:30] Why Dave Ramsey is not accurate for everyone. [42:00] The importance of educating people on the positives and negatives of loyalty programs: make an informed choice. [42:50] Justin shares his experience gambling on the seas (on cruise ships). [47:30] How to get a hold of Justin’s content. Quotes: “There are lots of intersections between miles, points, and gambling, and I’ve been saying for years that it’s valuable to have status, to earn status, and there are many creative ways to do that without actually gambling [and] playing on the square.” — @justinvacula [0:02:37]  “Of course, we know, the answer to everything is more credit cards!” — @justinvacula [0:13:41] “For years I’ve been saying, ‘Have backup methods and have status’ in other ways.’” — @justinvacula [0:16:34] “I think Vegas is one of the cheapest places to travel to. [There’s] tons of value, tons to do, [and] lots of free entertainment!” — @justinvacula [0:18:24] Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Justin Vacula on X Justin Vacula on YouTube Justin Vacula on Instagram Hurdy Gurdy Travel Wyndam Rewards Earner Cards Caesars Credit Cards MGM Credit Cards Staples Rewards Las Vegas Sphere Greater Philadelphia Travel: Credit, Miles, and Points Giants Hyper Chicago Seminars Hyatt Zorkfest Zorkcast Podcast Spotify Michael Trager Boyd Gaming Royal Caribbean Cruises Celebrity Cruises Chase Sapphire Reserve Credit Card  Thomas Kim on X Trevor Mountcastle on X The Milenomics Podcast Network