We're back with season 2! In our first full episode on the theme of waiting, we talk to Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Molly O'Toole and Arizona State University professors Abby Wheatley and Gabriella Soto. Our guests are experts on the U.S.-Mexico border, and their work shows us how experiences of waiting, urgency, and delay shape the borderlands. Our conversation draws on practices of journalism, ethnography, and forms of activism and humanitarian work in the borderlands, highlighting how quickly things can change, but also how they stay the same.

Links

• Molly O'Toole
• Gabriella Soto
• Abby Wheatley
• Title 42 Explained"Walking the Migrant Trail: Community Resistance to a Weaponized Desert" by Abby Wheatley
• "Impermeable Borders and the Futility of Walls" by Abby Wheatley and Oren Kroll-Zeldin
• "The Dead Must Be Counted" by Gabriella Soto
• "Absent and Present: Biopolitics and the Materiality of Body Counts on the U.S.–Mexico Border" by Gabriella Soto
• "The Out Crowd" from This American Life, with reporting from Molly O'Toole
• "Asylum Seekers with Cases Closed under ‘Remain in Mexico’ Can Come to U.S. to Pursue Claims" by Molly O'Toole

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