In this episode of Midwife Crisis, host Kelli speaks with Kirsten Small, a former obstetrician-gynecologist, about her journey through professional crisis and eventual transition from clinical practice to academic and educational roles. We look into Kirsten's experiences with systemic challenges, the emotional toll of being reported, and the lack of support from colleagues and institutions. Kirsten emphasises the importance of collaboration between obstetricians and midwives and discusses her current project, Birth Small Talk, an educational platform aimed at improving understanding of electronic fetal monitoring among midwives. The episode highlights the significance of open conversations about professional scrutiny and the need for systemic change to better support healthcare professionals.