Birmingham based artist Ellis Esco is carving out his lane in the underground scene and beyond. With a unique sound blending smooth conscious lyricism with a raw delivery over a broad style of experimental beats, his is a voice you can't ignore.   From a young hip hop enthusiast to a rising star in the drum and bass scene - Ellis discusses the importance of community support, the challenges faced by Birmingham's hip hop culture, and the influence of his family on his music. Ellis reflects on his experiences, the significance of storytelling in his lyrics, and his desire to be part of the next generation of MCs. The conversation also touches on the differences between being an artist and an MC, the impact of age and experience on creativity, and the future of his music career.   Phil Fokus and Ellis explore the intricacies of MCing in the drum and bass scene, discussing the challenges and excitement of transitioning from hip hop to drum and bass. They delve into the evolution of MCs, the importance of collaboration, and the personal growth that comes with performing.   Ellis shares pivotal moments in his career, including his collaboration with Sattel, and reflects on the versatility required in music. The discussion culminates in a fun segment where they create an ultimate cypher of their favorite MCs, showcasing the rich tapestry of influences in their musical journeys.   Watch: You Tube (@micmindedpeople) Connect: Instagram @micmindedpeople @mcfokus @ellis_esco