As AI becomes deeply embedded in modern software development, how we define, and measure developer experience is rapidly evolving. In this special episode recorded live at the Developer Experience Summit, Harness Director Adeeb Valiulla moderates a candid and insightful conversation with:

• Nathen Harvey, DORA Lead at Google Cloud
• Sanjeev Hasiza, Global Director of Software Development & Architecture at Sensormatic (Johnson Controls)

Together, they unpack:

• Why traditional productivity metrics fall short in the age of AI
• How to measure developer satisfaction, creativity, and flow
• The subtle but critical impacts of GenAI on morale, collaboration, and value perception
• The importance of balancing data-driven decisions with human-centered leadership

This is a must-listen for engineering leaders, platform teams, and anyone shaping the future of DevEx. Move beyond vanity metrics. Focus on meaningful impact.