Phil and Ray discuss a wide range of bands that either maybe should have stopped, or they are grateful only had a brief period of being productive and grapple with the question, does not wanting more of a band you like make any sense? No, of course not. But we aren't always rational beings.

Upcoming gigs that were mentioned

Hobart March 8 Pestilential Shadows, Permafog, Midnight Odyssey, Portcullis https://tickets.oztix.com.au/outlet/event/a3feb1c4-9aec-4f6c-a347-6c63fa52042c

Melbourne Dethfest March 9 https://tickets.cornerhotel.com/outlet/event/3db93de4-eab1-4c18-84fc-6f7821922a84

Sydney April 12 Destruktor, Pestilential Shadows, AftermatH, Petrol https://allevents.in/marrickville/destruktor-%7C-factory-floor-sydney/200027790152024#

Black Sabbath tickets on sale Feb 14 https://www.livenation.co.uk/show/1561056/back-to-the-beginning/birmingham/2025-07-05

Lots of other things mentioned, I'll try and get a playlist done when I can, but there is a lot covered in this one!

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