Episode 85 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.







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"Sometimes [conversion] just felt so hard to do. I had so many questions and I had so many doubts and it was conveyed to me by more than one person that It shouldn't be this hard, but I look back and I'm actually really grateful for it, for how much I had to wrestle with my adoption and my parents language and what liturgy means now and with our embrace of death.



All these things that I carried with me culturally as the daughter of Chinese immigrants had to be reexamined in my conversion. They didn't fit into what my life as a Catholic was turning into. I would do these things that felt antithetical to the way my parents raised me...And I had to maybe not revise those things of my past and those things of how I grew up, but I had to, I guess just reconcile them in a different way and say, yes, where I come from makes me who I am today.



It all comes with me, but I can look at it differently."
-Melody Gee











Topics Discussed:








* Immigration experience









* Conversion to Catholicism









* Ritual, routine, and liturgy









* Discomfort









* The messiness of prayer and community









* Embodiment of faith









* Balancing different cultures









* Embracing conflict









* Resisting perfectionism








Name Drops:








* Jesus









* Thomas Merton









* Ronald Rolheiser









* Oliver Burkeman









* Greg Boyle









* Saul/Paul








Books Mentioned:








* the Bible









* We Carry Smoke and Paper









* New Seeds of Contemplation...