We shake things up a little this episode with a chat from my internet friend Yas, who has had a less-than-enjoyable experience of CBT, and my therapist of 2 years, Ici Butcher. Let's talk about our experiences with CBT.

DISCLAIMER: There are instances of explicit language, mentions and discussion of suicide and self harm that listeners may find disturbing. Please take of yourself. If you are effected by any of the content, please use the services provided by mental health charities, especially Samaritans, who are free to call and available to speak on 116 123. 

Music provided by Weyland McKenzie, from his EP 'Northeast'.