Mick is joined by ex-professionall footballer turned mental health campaigner Clarke Carlisle.

Clarke is back on the show to discuss his new role of COO of It's Mental, and how changing the conversation about mental health - with action to support it - is needed now more than ever.

It follows the Darzi report into the state of the NHS, and the news of surging numbers of children and young people needing support.

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Note: This episode features some sound issues for reasons explained at the beginning of the podcast.

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TOPICS: Mental Health awareness, suicide prevention, ways to wellness, finding hope, good mental health habits, improving wellness