In this chat, we get to meet Casey Dienel. Formerly known as White Hinterland, Dienel is back with a brand new record under their own name, called My Heart is an Outlaw, which is out now. It follows an 8-year absence from the music industry - a hiatus that Dienel wasn't initially sure they ever really wanted to end. But the songs came, and the rest is history. Here, we talk at length about the new record - the writing, production, themes, etc. - as well as what led to them breaking from and returning to making music, and how that looks different for them now than it did before. We also touch on life, art, mental health, pop music, food, and more. A circuitous talk in the best way possible. Thanks for listening.

In the latest installment of my re-interview subseries, We Meet Again, we get to chat for a second time with luminous, talented, and hilarious Madi Diaz. Madi just put out a brand new LP called Fatal Optimist, and we definitely deep into it in this chat. We talk about what led to this record being so spare and stripped back, the magic of demos, the effect of space on sound, and more. We also get into her "heartbreak trilogy," her experience earning two Grammy nominations for her last record Weird Faith, and her utter relentlessness - as an artist, as a writer, and as a curious human. I always have immense fun talking with Madi, and this talk is a blast. I hope you enjoy. Thanks for listening.

In this chat, we get to meet singer-songwriter, multi-instrumentalist Jens Lekman. Jens has just put out a new record, entitled Songs for Other People's Weddings, and it comes alongside a novel of the same name by David Levithan. The two collab'd on this very narrative project, telling a story about a wedding singer named J. who has a slightly tumultuous love story with a woman named V. Both are out now, and in this conversation, Jens and I dig deep on the lore of the album, the backstory, the narrative junctures, and what it was like for him to craft a "story album" (something he is a self-proclaimed non-fan on). We talk humor in songs, fact vs. fiction (and which is the better truth-teller), as well as his real life side gig as a wedding singer for hire. Thanks for listening.

Time for another edition of We Meet Again, the subseries of Meet Our Makers where I re-interview folks from the show's past, this time with niceties and introductions out of the way, clearing the room for more intimate and casual conversation. This time we have Nina Nastasia back on, who I had on last time alongside Jeff MacLeod to talk about their band Jolie Laide's debut LP. Now the band is back with their sophomore album, Creatures, which is out now, but this time I have Nina solo. We chat about the new album, how it's been growing the band (they've since added two new members), as well as how her songwriting and relationship to music-making has changed over time. We also talk about her new solo release, Songs for a World of Trouble, which at the time of this recording hadn't even been announced yet, but is now out - and only on her Bandcamp. We talk about a lot more, too - guitar, Steve Albini, Spotify - and it was so lovely to have her back. Thanks for listening.

In this episode, we get to meet The Swell Season. Comprised of singers, songwriters, musicians Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova, you may know them best as the leads of the John Carney film Once, back from 2007, which won an Oscar for its immortal "Falling Slowly". And while we do touch upon the film in this conversation - including its legacy, the shocks of that time, and why they don't get tired of speaking about it, even nearly 20 years on - we focus first and foremost on their brand new album, Forward, which is out now. We talk about the production, songwriting, and performance of the album, the dynamics of it, but also what led to them reconnecting after so many years away from being in the studio as a duo. It's a lovely chat, with a talented pair of people I've been watching since 2007, so I was happy to connect. Thank you for listening.

In this episode, we get to meet singer, songwriter, producer, multi-instrumentalist Patrick Wolf. Patrick is back after a 14-year album absence with a brand new collection called Crying The Neck (an archaic phrase we get into the symbolism of), which is out now. In this chat, Patrick and I talk a lot about the new album - its themes of loss, mourning, celebration - and why this album means so much to him, not only because it was inspired largely by the loss of his mother, but because it exists. This album follows on the heels of that absence, and he feels so excited to be back, happy, and healthy. We touch on those years spent in between, what was going on, and how and why he found himself leaving that time and entering this new era. He's stoked to get onto the next project, and that fire is palpable. I was honored to chat with him. Thank you for listening.

In this episode we get to meet Meg Remy, the driving force behind the chameleonic indie rock project, U.S. Girls. Remy may be the driver, but the group around her is always changing - both in terms of style and personnel - depending on what track a given project is taking. This time, it's new album Scratch It, which was recorded live to tape in Nashville with a group of Nashville musicians. In this chat, we talk a lot about the album, which is being dubbed her "rock record" by many (though not really by Remy herself), including the production, themes, ideas, and history of it. We also talk about the band as a whole and what it really is, is not, and everything in between. We touch on the epic first single "Bookends" and what it says about human life, as well as her first stint at film scoring. Thank you for listening.

In this chat, we get to meet Amy Millan. Amy is best known as co-bandleader of the Canadian band Stars, as well as her side gig as a member of Broken Social Scene. But now, she has a brand new solo record out - her third, in fact, and first since 2009 - called I Went to Find You. In this conversation, we talk a lot about this new record, from its thematic inspirations to its initiation, from the close collaboration she found with co-songwriter and co-producer Jay McCarrol to what it means for her to back in a solo capacity after all these years. We do, of course, talk about Stars, especially their 2004 album Set Yourself on Fire, whose 20th birthday the band is still celebrating. We touch on what that album means to her now, to us the listeners now, some band lore, and more. It's been many years in the making, this conversation, and I'm thrilled it finally happened. Thank you for listening.

In this chat we get to meet Swedish Italo-disco duo, Sally Shapiro. Made up of producer Johan Ageborn and singer Sally Shapiro (which is a pseudonym for the anonymous woman behind the mic, as well as the band name), the elusive duo just put out a new album, Ready to Live a Lie, and has been operating mostly in anonymity since their beginning back in the 2000s, with the release of the big first single "I'll Be By Your Side". While Johan is certainly the more public persona, Sally herself has retained her near-totally obsucred identity, a la Burial, since the start. In this chat, we talk about the brand new record - including the production, writing, and inspirations behind it - as well as some band history, including why they chose to go the anonymous route in the first place, and how they hold onto that in the ever-increasingly digital era. They barely do any interviews (especially Sally), so I was very grateful they came on. Thank you for listening.

In this chat, we get to meet Lido Pimienta. Lido is a singer, songwriter, producer, who just put out her newest record, La Belleza, via ANTI-. We talk a lot about the album, with special focus on the genre of it — which, for Lido, is something new: classical music. Where her previous work was sort of an avant-garde electronic pop kind of thing, La Belleza is steeped in classical music tradition, composition, and structure. We talk about what led Lido to try her hand at this style, which she had previously felt was sort of blocked off from her, and how she feels like she got in there and made a space for herself to belong. We talk about the writing of the record, genre pigeon holing, shirking societal expectations, working with coproducer Owen Pallett, and more. Thank you for listening.

In this chat, we get to meet Merrill Garbus of Tune-Yards. Garbus started Tune-Yards as a solo project, but quickly transformed into a duo with musical and life partner Nate Brenner, and they have now released their brand new LP, Better Dreaming, on 4AD. In this chat, Merrill and I go deep on the personal, global, emotional, and sociopolitical themes and inspirations behind the new record, as well as the production, writing, and composition process. We also touch a bit on Tune-Yards early years, and end up diving deep into the significance of art (both making it and having it in our lives), and of simply being alive, in this moment, now - and how radical that can be. Thank you for listening.

In this episode, we get to meet Uwade. Uwade a Cailfornia-by-way-of-North Carolina singer-songwriter, who has just released her new debut album, Florilegium. You may have - like I did - first encountered her, though, as the first voice on the opening track of the last Fleet Foxes record Shore, called "Wading in the Waist-High Water". In this chat, she and I discuss the writing and process of creating this first solo LP, what it means for her to be going out on her own, the musical touchstones of her childhood that found their ways into these songs, and more. We do also touch on her work with Robin Pecknold & co. and the subsequent tours she shared with Fleet Foxes, and what she learned from that. Finally, we touch on her academic life, as she is currently working toward a PhD. Thank you for listening.

In this episode we get to meet Tunde Adebimpe. Tunde is best known as one of the co-founders, singers, and songwriters of the influential indie rock band TV On the Radio. But now he has a debut solo LP called Thee Black Boltz, and this conversation, we talk a lot about how this record came to be, a process that included rescuing some archival recordings and crafting brand new work. We also touch on TV on the Radio's legacy and their "reunion" tour. Then we, of course, talk about Tunde's film work (as he is also an accomplished actor), including his recent role on Star Wars: Skeleton Crew, and his time making one of my all-time favorite films, Jonathan Demme's Rachel Getting Married. I was thrilled to chat with such a titan, and I think you'll enjoy. Thanks for listening.

In this episode, we get to meet singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, producer Valerie June. Here, Valerie and I go deep into her brand new record, Owls, Omens, and Oracles, including the themes, production, and writing of these genre-defying songs. We touch on music history, including Appalachian and Delta folk music, as well as the concept of being positive or optimistic in times like these. Valerie spoke with a candid warmth and was a real open book, and I think you'll enjoy this talk if you like any of her work, but also if you just want to listen to a really good talk about life, art, philosophy, history, and the like. Be transported with her like I was. Thank you for listening. 

In this episode, we get to meet Daughter of Swords, aka Alex Sauser-Monnig. Alex just released a brand new solo album under their Daughter of Swords moniker, appropriately titled Alex, and in this chat, we discuss the record at length, including its varied themes (of both personal and societal contexts), the creation of the record, and also the huge aesthetic shift from their first DoS record, Dawnbreaker. We also talk about their various side projects, like The A's with Sylvan Esso's Amelia Meath, or the trio they and Amelia share with Molly Sarle called Mountain Man. There's also the topic of the booming North Carolina music scene - spearheaded by the Psychic Hotline indie music group led by Sylvan Esso - and what it means for them to be a part of such a special family of talented folks. Thank you for listening.

In this chat, we get to meet Baths, aka Will Wiesenfeld. Will just released his latest record - and first in a while - as Baths, called Gut, and in this conversation we dive deep into the new LP. We talk about its musicality, which is much more rock-leaning than his prior Baths work; we talk about the writing process; and we talk about the incredibly raw, honest lyricism, which revolves largely around sex and sexuality, and all the ups & downs that come with that. Thankfully, Will was just as frank in our conversation, willing to be as "open book" as I asked him to be. We also touch on his score work, the glory of bicycling, and the queer mecca that is Provincetown, MA. (Believe me - it all connects.) Thank you for listening.

In this episode, we get to meet singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist Basia Bulat. Basia just released a brand new album - the lovely Basia's Palace - in February, and in this conversation, we go deep into it. The process of making it (which included a mostly-remote workflow with producer Tucker Martine), the themes, the desires for this project, and more. We also take a dive into the world of video games, especially old games and their beautiful midi soundtracks, which were a surprising touchstone for Bulat on this LP. (Paging fans of Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, and the like!) We take time to mention U.S. Girls, too, a band that Bulat has been associated with for years. It's a fun, free-flowing conversation, full of gratitude and love and good vibes, if I do say so myself. Thank you for listening.

CONTENT WARNING: Emotional and narcissistic abuse (specifically via a parent).And now for a second helping of my new subseries. In episode two of WE MEET AGAIN, A MEET OUR MAKERS SUBSERIES, we catch up with Azure Ray's Orenda Fink. Last time we spoke was around the release of her band's last album, Remedy, but this chat was spurred by a very different release: Fink's debut memoir, The Witch's Daughter. Because we'd already "met," I think we were able to go deeper and further faster and with more candor, which is fitting given the startling honesty and blunt storytelling in Fink's book, which largely circles around her fraught relationship with her mother, and the realization that she and her sister were victims of their mother's narcissistic abuse for most of their lives. As she recounts scattered memories from childhood through adulthood, Fink reveals some shockingly personal details about her upbringing and her efforts to separate herself from her mother's abuse. In this chat, Fink speaks with just as much candor about the book, her personal story, and where she is now. I couldn't be more appreciative of her time and her openness. The Witch's Daughter is out now, and while it is a tough sit sometimes, I think it's a vitally important book and beautifully told story of recognizing and then trying to transcend emotional hardship.

And now for something a little different. This is the first episode in what I hope will be an ongoing "subseries" of Meet Our Makers, called We Meet Again. Today, we talk (again) to Half Waif, aka Nandi Rose. In this series, I will be interviewing people a second time, only this time, we can cut through all the noise and background and introductions. Instead, we can get right to it. We (sort of) already know each other, so let's just dive in, right? We get to really dig into Nandi Rose's newest (startlingly personal) Half Waif record, my personal AOTY, See You At The Maypole. Content warning: This episode DOES contain some explicit language about miscarriages, so consider that before hitting play. I think this is actually a better conversation than the one we first had almost three years ago, and I'm so happy we got to do this. Thanks Nandi. And thank YOU for diving into this new venture with me. There will be more of these (and more regular episodes!) to come.

In this episode, we get to meet Gareth Paisey, the lead singer of indie rockers Los Campesinos! In this chat, Gareth and I discuss the band's newest record All Hell, which came out this past summer on the band's own label. We talk about the interim between it and its predecessor Sick Scenes, the production and background of this new one, as well as his own love-hate relationship with songwriting. We talk about the band's growth and legacy, as well as what Gareth's favorite parts of being in a band like Los Campesinos are. All Hell is probably their strongest record yet, and one of 2024's best, so if you haven't caught up with it, go take a listen, and then come hang out with us. Thank you for listening.