Ulrich is one of those very rare physicians who ended up leaving the hospital after spending a considerable amount of time in it. After studying medicine in Austria, he worked and qualified as a surgeon in Munich, where he also did research and completed his habilitation. While he still was (and is) very passionate about surgery, he decided to change his career by leaving the hospital and starting to work as a clinical reviewer at Tüv Süd. He’s been there for some time now, and nowadays he works as a department manager there for a team of doctors like him. I think Ulrich’s story is interesting because there simply aren’t many physicians like him who decide to leave the hospital at such a “late” stage - most people I know leave after medical school or after one or two years of working. Further, Ulrich’s job at Tüv Süd is also not something which I’ve heard of so far - the most common jobs we’ve heard of on this podcast were about software development or working at startups. While he now works at Tüv Süd, he still works as an emergency physician from time to time. That means that he drives around in an ambulance with a team of paramedics. I think that’s really cool! If you’re also in the hospital, working long shifts and considering making a change, Ulrich’s story could be very interesting for you. Enjoy!