In this podcast episode, Matt and Nen explore the evolving definition of work in modern society, the challenges of entering the job market, and the distinction between technical and non-technical jobs. They emphasize the importance of vocational training and early career experiences, particularly in the context of South Sudan. Our conversation highlights the value of diversity in the workplace and the need for mentorship and support for young professionals. Key takeaways include the importance of respecting all jobs, the necessity of skill identification in youth, and the role of vocational education in empowering the next generation.