In this episode, host Leanne McMahon sits down with Michael Evans, a renowned figure in mathematics education, to discuss the AMSI ICE-EM textbooks and their evolution. Michael provides an insightful look into the history of these textbooks, which have been instrumental in Australian classrooms for over 20 years. He highlights their unique development process, the collaborative efforts behind them, and their focus on deep understanding rather than rote learning. The episode also delves into the exciting updates coming with the incorporation of the Australian Curriculum Version 9, including algorithmic thinking, Indigenous perspectives, and enhanced online resources. With a strong emphasis on support for teachers, this episode is a must-listen for educators looking to maximize the potential of these innovative textbooks in their classrooms. Resources: Textbook information: https://schools.amsi.org.au/publications_category/publications/textbooks/ Textbook samples and ordering: https://cambridge.edu.au/iceem  AMSI online resources: Calculate: https://calculate.org.au/ AMSI student and teacher modules: https://calculate.org.au/amsi-modules/ Classroom resources: Number and algebra: https://calculate.org.au/number-and-algebra/ Measurement and Geometry: https://calculate.org.au/measurement-and-geometry/ Units of work: https://calculate.org.au/units-of-work/ Games: https://calculate.org.au/games/