Lars Grønnegaard, COO and Co-Founder of Dreamdata, joins Mike to discuss data utilization in B2B marketing and the importance of understanding what truly drives sales. They talk about the complexities of attribution in B2B marketing, particularly with long buying cycles, and highlight the importance of collecting and analyzing data, even though multi-touch attribution can be controversial. Lars explains how Dreamdata addresses the challenge of data overload in B2B marketing by building robust data models that connect various data sources, enabling marketers to analyze campaign effectiveness and make informed decisions. About Dreamdata Dreamdata is the leading B2B Activation & Attribution Platform that provides the most complete customer journey map anywhere. We gather, join, and clean all revenue-related data, transforming it into transparent, actionable insights about what truly drives B2B revenue. Dreamdata empowers businesses to optimize their go-to-market activities, ensuring they can produce faster, better-performing customer journeys and deliver more revenue growth. About Lars Grønnegaard Lars Grønnegaard is a passionate problem-solver focused on revolutionizing B2B go-to-market strategies. As COO & Co-founder of Dreamdata, he's dedicated to empowering B2B companies with holistic, actionable data to drive smarter decisions, optimize customer journeys, and accelerate revenue growth. His journey from VP Product at Trustpilot (where he was instrumental in its product growth to unicorn status) to building Dreamdata stems from a deep understanding that B2Bs are rich in data but often struggle to turn it into actionable insights. Time Stamps 00:00:43 - Lars's Career Journey and Founding Dreamdata00:03:13 - Startup Environment in Denmark00:05:30 - The Challenge of Data Clarity in Marketing00:08:22 - Attribution vs. Incremental Sales Testing00:10:39 - Long Buying Cycles in B2B00:16:12 - Maintaining Data Models Over Time00:19:17 - Freemium Model and Customer Trials00:22:44 - Ad Spend and ROI Considerations00:28:49 - Best Marketing Advice from Lars00:29:39 - Advice for Aspiring Marketers00:30:34 - Where to Learn More About Dreamdata Quotes "You can probably cancel somewhere between 25 and 75 percent of your ad spend and see no impact on your pipeline performance." Lars Grønnegaard, COO and Co-Founder of Dreamdata "The fundamental problem here is not lack of data or tracking... but the problem is all this data doesn't really connect." Lars Grønnegaard, COO and Co-Founder of Dreamdata Follow Lars: Lars Grønnegaard on LinkedIn: https://dk.linkedin.com/in/larsgroennegaard Dreamdata’s website: https://dreamdata.io/ Dreamdata on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dreamdata-io/ Follow Mike: Mike Maynard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemaynard/ Napier website: https://www.napierb2b.com/ Napier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/napier-partnership-limited/ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to our podcast for more discussions about the latest in Marketing B2B Tech and connect with us on social media to stay updated on upcoming episodes. We'd also appreciate it if you could leave us a review on your favourite podcast platform. Want more? Check out Napier’s other podcast - The Marketing Automation Moment: https://podcasts.apple.com/ua/podcast/the-marketing-automation-moment-podcast/id1659211547