In this meta-episode of Manic Joy, Dave and Reese take a break from their usual theme to turn the lens on the podcast itself. Over a delicious El Diablo cocktail, they dive into how AI (aka “Cathy”) helped them reflect on the show’s structure, tone, and future possibilities—from adding recurring segments like Reese’s Fun Fact or Dave’s Deep Thought, to tightening intros and bringing in surprise guest experts.

Along the way, you’ll hear heartfelt insights, spontaneous sidebars (tiny straws, dirty glasses, and people-ing woes), and a poignant realization about what this podcast really means to them—and one day, to their daughters.

Whether you’re a longtime listener or just stumbled in, this is a joyful behind-the-scenes peek at a work in progress, anchored in laughter, love, and yes—uncertainty.