
In this raw and powerful episode, Danielle sits down with two unstoppable forces—Whitney Abraham and Stephanie Hanna—for a deep dive into the messy middle of business, leadership, loss, and female friendship.
From campaign defeats and business betrayal to building thriving communities and launching sold-out conferences, this conversation explores the exact moments where things felt the hardest—and how they became the most transformative.
You’ll hear:
How to rebuild trust after being burned
The real truth about running for office and not winning
What happens when your mission matters more than your title
Why doing the work (on yourself) changes everything
Grab your notebook, your tissues, and your people—this one’s layered with perspective, grit, and growth.
🎙️ Plus: The one person workshop that started it all... and how it led to a sold-out movement.
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