Today is a very special episode because, for the first time, we have two brilliant guests answering this question not just one - both of them specialise in the legal industry, which is a hot bed for this scenario where managers are under pressure to perform and so, at times, deprioritise people and, even, can lack humanity as well as endangering their own wellbeing.
One is Sam Jardine, Partner at Fieldfisher LLP and LawCare Chamption, and the other is Elizabeth Rimmer, CEO of LawCare, which promotes and supports good mental health in the legal industry across the UK and has just launched its latest report, Life in Law 2025.
This is a fascinating wide ranging conversation, with loads of practical ideas and tips, as well as a bit of philosophy, AI predictions and even poetry. Check out the conversation breakdown below to see just how much ground is covered!
00:00 Introduction to the Leaders Podcast
00:35 This Week's Challenge: Prioritizing People in High-Pressure Environments
01:29 Expert Insights: Sam Jardine and Elizabeth Rimmer
02:10 The Legal Industry's Pressure Cooker Environment
05:31 The Impact of Empathy and Humanity in Management
07:43 Positive Management Stories and Their Impact
08:34 Valuing People Management in the Legal Sector
09.35 Results of the recent LawCare study
12.04 How could line managers be encouraged to focus on better people management
17.25 The challenge hybrid working brings
20:35 The Role of Self-Awareness in Effective Management
26:27 The Importance of Human Skills in the Age of AI
29.00 Measuring Kindness
30.00 The Alien Question, and wrap up