In this episode, after a very busy weekend, we sit down with the man, the myth, the legend, Mr. Bill Yao. Some credit him as the godfather of microbrands, some say he started the Seiko modding-movement, but we credit him as being an inspiration for us to start Nodus. After the last day of WindUp, we sit in a tiny hotel room and drink too much wine to reflect on our first WindUp since the pandemic started. We also discuss the history of Tornek Rayville, tell stories from behind the curtain, and try to remember 20 years worth of MK II releases.

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This episode was produced by Wesley Kwok.
Music in this episode was written, recorded, and produced by Dallas Thornton.