In our second most listened to episode, we share the "bad and the ugly" of the first few years of our marriage, talking about how our basic differences, plus unhealed wounds from our past caused major issues - explosive anger, broken trust, disrespect, and the resulting broken hearts that ultimately caused us to consider divorce.  We talk about seeking counseling, and Jamie reveals a secret that she believes allowed us to "crawl out of the hole" we were in.  We have recommended this episode to so many struggling couples over the last 2 months, we thought we would reprise this episode.  If you are struggling in your marriage, and have lost hope that things could get any better, this episode is for you.

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