Damien Levi brings local loser's biggest fan, Saraid de Silva, onto the pod while he's visiting Wellington. Together they get right into it—what's being read, what's being kept for the archive, and what do you learn about yourself when you move to Wellington?

They also touch on trying to shake off the shackles of the digital age, rediscover discovering music and interrogate their feelings on earnestness.

Some links from this pod you may like include T-BOYS 4 PALESTINE, Amma by Saraid de Silva, and lobbying guidelines for the 'Unlawful Occupation of Palestine' Sanctions Bill.

Damien can be found on Instagram.

The local loser theme song is composed by Karen Hu.