In this episode, John sat down with his father-in-law as he shares his powerful story, growing up in Columbus, Ohio. He opens up about the impact of losing his father at the young age of seven and how even though this was certainly a tragedy for him and his family, it didn’t stop God from shaping him. He talks about his experience being called as a young man to preach and knowing it was his purpose.

He dives deep into how Jesus was fundamentally anti-oppression, a truth often overlooked or avoided by many who study scripture. We discuss how scripture, Jesus, and the concepts of service, justice, and community are connected.

This perspective has not only shaped his life philosophy but also influenced his professional journey, including one of the countries first black owned mental health agencies Minority Behavioral Health Group over 30 years ago.

As we wrap up, he shares his insights on sustaining a healthy, happy marriage for almost 50 years, offering timeless wisdom on love, faith, and partnership.