In episode 5 of Live Like It Matters, host Elissa Kalver sits down with Dena Goldberg—better known as Dena DNA—a certified genetic counselor, speaker, and educator who’s on a mission to make genetics understandable and empowering for everyone.

As the founder of Malibu Genetics and DenaDNA.com, Dena specializes in helping people uncover and navigate their inherited cancer risks. In honor of Breast Cancer Awareness Month, Elissa and Dena dive into the role of genes like BRCA1 and BRCA2, how genetic testing can save lives, and what it really means when someone says “cancer runs in the family.”

Together, they unpack how to approach testing, manage fear around results, and use this information to make proactive, life-changing choices. Dena also shares her unique perspective on the emotional side of genetics—reminding listeners that knowledge isn’t about predicting the future, but about preparing for it.

With honesty, clarity, and heart, this episode bridges science and humanity—empowering us all to take charge of our health stories and to live like it truly matters.

Email: dena@denadna.com

Website: malibugenetics.com and denadna.com 

Instagram: @dena.dna

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DenaTalksDNA/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/denadna

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/denadna 

Where storytelling meets spontaneity. No script. No rules. Just raw, honest, and often ridiculous conversations about life, loss, healing, and hope. These are the messy, magical moments that make life worth showing up for, even when it’s hard. Elissa sits down with friends, specialists, fellow cancer thrivers, and sometimes whoever happens to wander in on recording day. With no script, expect raw laughter, real tears, and unexpectedly deep conversations. Every episode is a reminder that authenticity is messy, beautiful, and worth sharing. And remember to Live Like It Matters

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