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Most Christians believe we are saved by grace—but many quietly live as though grace stops there. In this thought-provoking conversation, Elliot sits down with Dr. Kyle DiRoberts, professor, author, and theologian, to unpack his book Grace Beyond Salvation. Together, they explore how God’s grace shapes our daily lives, relationships, and even our theology after conversion.
Kyle unpacks how striving, rule-following, and theological overthinking can quietly replace genuine dependence on God’s grace—even in the most devout lives. With clarity and pastoral insight, he challenges performance-driven Christianity and invites us to experience grace not just as a doctrine, but as a sustaining power for everyday life. Together, they confront the traps of legalism, explore the nature of spiritual maturity, and reframe disciplines like prayer and Scripture as responses to love—not attempts to earn it.
If you’ve ever felt burned out from trying to be good enough, this episode will speak to your soul.
Dr. Kyle DiRoberts is the Department Chair and Associate Professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Arizona Christian University. He also teaches at Phoenix Seminary and serves as a pastor at Scottsdale Bible Church. Kyle regularly writes and speaks on spiritual formation, humility, and the grace of God.
Elliot Sands is the host of the Live Faith First podcast—a dynamic space where faith meets real-world challenges. With a rich background as a pastor, school principal, health-tech co-founder, and now Executive Director of Faith First, Elliot brings deep wisdom and practical insight to every conversation. As a husband, father, and grandfather, he weaves personal experience with thoughtful discussion, tackling tough topics with clarity and compassion. Live Faith First is all about bridging divides—whether in society or the church—encouraging listeners to step beyond echo chambers and build real, meaningful relationships across the aisle, the street, or the table.
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