In Defense of Fantasy

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Steve Chisnell

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In Defense of Fantasy

Literary Nomads

47 minutes 49 seconds

3 months ago

In Defense of Fantasy

1 Aug 2025
Episode 6.07 - In Defense of Fantasy
Riddle: What do Beowulf, Palmolive dish liquid, and Sarah Maas have in common? Hint: Ursula K. Le Guin knows!
Today we wonder at both the disdain of fantasy as genre and its enduring popularity, examine some of Le Guin's arguments for it as literature, and take a crash course in the history of fantasy across the millennia.

Some key texts discussed in this episode:

* Ancient Texts: Gilgamesh, The Iliad, The Odyssey
* Roman Epics: The Aeneid, Africa
* Chanson de Geste: The Song of Roland; Beowulf
* Amadis of Gaula
* Edmund Spenser: The Faerie Queen
* Cervantes: Don Quixote
* Works of Sir Walter Scott
* William Morris: The Well at the World's End
* Lord Dunsany: The Gods of Pegana
* J. R. R. Tolkien: The Lord of the Rings
* C. S. Lewis: Narnia series
* Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson: Dungeons and Dragons

Readings on Fantasy Recommended:

* Tolkien, J. R. R. - "On Fairy Stories" - https://archive.org/details/on-fairy-stories_202110
* Le Guin, Ursula K. - "From Elfland to Poughkeepsie"

New to Literary Nomads? Check out episode 5.00 to find out what we're all about: https://waywordsstudio.com/podcasts/waywords_podcast/an-introduction-and-irony/

Reading Ahead, Journey 6:

* Ursula K. Le Guin: "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas": https://archive.org/download/the-ones-who-walk-away-from-omelas-ursula-k-leguin/The%20Ones%20Who%20Walk%20Away%20from%20Omelas%20-%20Ursula%20K%20LeGuin.pdf

Complete Resources: https://waywordsstudio.com/project/le-guin-omelas/

CHAPTERS

00:00 Geekdom and Down-the-Nose POV
07:40 Opening Theme
08:10 Un-Trashing Mass Culture
15:49 Truths of Fantasy
22:12 History of the Fantastic
38:39 You're Soaking In It
41:56 The Fantasy Formal
46:33 Closing Theme and Credits

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Transcript: https://waywordsstudio.com/general/transcript/6-07-in-defense-of-fantasy/

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