In this episode, we interview the one and only Ted Rutland, associate professor at Concordia, about the Defund the Policemovement. Rutland has helped in the creation of the Defund the Police Coalition, and has published two books on the subject of crime and racial discrimination in Montreal. In this episode filled with personal stories, insightful examples, and unfiltered facts, we touch on what defunding the police would look like in Montreal, on what needs to be changed politically for that change to come about, and on how the media and ‘’copaganda’’ has affected the common perception of the police. We hope you enjoy this very informative episode!