It's never great to be in a position where you feel you have to refuse a bribe, but should you be insulted that the bribe on offer is very small?

Mark Barnes and Tim Cohen discuss this and other questions related to South Africa’s incremental decline - and how to reverse it. The key question is whether SA’s cost of capital is too high to attract investment, and how to fix that.

And would it help if politicians were not as old as they are - and podcasters!