In this episode, Sam and Will reflect on a subdued Japan Grand Prix where Max Verstappen took victory, getting the most out of a car that looked far from dominant. Behind him, McLaren followed in formation – but should they have swapped their drivers to give both a fair shot at attacking Max? With Piastri seemingly the quicker of the two, could this be a decision they come to regret in the title fight?

We also dive into the Red Bull junior driver drama, now that the Lawson/Yuki switch has finally happened. Plus, it's time for another round of our rookie game – complete with our brilliantly refined scoring system.

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