In this explosive chapter, Annaka explores the concept of space, how it's constructed, and what our experiences of space might represent in reality. She speaks with two physicists, Carlo Rovelli and Lee Smolin, along with the science writer George Musser, to learn more about what it means for space to be emergent. They also discuss whether or not time might also be an emergency property of something more fundamental. Listen to the full audio documentary here: https://lightsondocumentary.com Annaka—initially skeptical about the significance of subjective experiences in meditation—was surprised to find these experiences can sometimes reveal deeper insights into scientific truth. Through her collaboration with neuroscientists, she learned how our perceptions of reality are largely indirect, often described as "controlled hallucinations," according to Anil Seth. However, disciplined attention to our immediate experiences can sometimes alter our perceptions of space, time, and self, offering a potentially clearer view of reality. This leads her down a path of jaw-dropping exploration about the true nature of space and time.