In this episode, hosts Ron Kuszmar and Webster Marsh sit down with two industry leaders:Andrew Cardello (Resource Innovations) – Program implementer helping utilities and vendors maximize incentives.Mike Berube (Independent Electric Supply) – VP of Sales with 15+ years in the field, driving efficiency projects across New England. Together, they dive into:🔌 The shift from fixture rebates to controls🏫 Common retrofit projects in higher education, healthcare, and industrial spaces🤝 Bridging the gap between specifiers and distributors📱 Why lighting controls are “just another app on your phone”📚 The critical role of education and training for contractors and owners🌍 How incentive programs are evolving and what that means for the future of smart buildings From specifiers and distributors to contractors—or anyone curious about the future of lighting controls—this episode delivers valuable insights on collaboration, adoption, and the evolving path toward greater efficiency. #LightingControls #SmartBuildings #EnergyEfficiency #Podcast #BostonLights Connect with Andrew: Https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-cardello/ Https://www.eversource.com/business/save-money-energy/energy-efficiency-programs/commercial-buildings/existing-building-solutions/express-lighting  Connect with Michael: Linkedin.com/in/michael-berube-759ba622iesbuy.com Sponsor: Maxlite, maxlite.com