In Episode 4 our final Podcast in the series, we have a panel talk with Lighthouse CEO and Artistic Director Alli Beddoes, Programme Intern Elia Habib, creator of 'Echo' Georgie Pinn, and the creator of 'Common Ground' Darren Emerson. The panel talk was hosted at Lighthouse and comprised of questions from the Lighthouse team and the audience. The discussion explores the use of digital technologies such as virtual reality and how they can be used to further human empathy. In October 2019, for the Brighton Digital Festival, Lighthouse presented selected works from the Sheffield Doc/Fest's Alternate Realities. The exhibition at Lighthouse focussed on immersive and interactive technologies which enable us to interpret and engage with socio-political infrastructures, storytelling and the interface of physical and digital worlds. Each of the selected works reveal themes of empathy and intimate encounters with people and places. In this Light + podcast series, we talk to the creators to find out more. This series has been edited by Connor Clark WARNING: There is explicit language in this episode. We apologise for any offence caused.