Dr Robert Califf conducts a series of in-depth and personal interviews with his peers in the world of cardiology to find out what makes them tick, how they feel about the future, and what lessons they have learned during their exceptional careers. In this episode, Dr Califf catches up with Dr Ralph Brindis and finds out about his path from "exit 9" to ACC presidency, with stops along the way at prep school, MIT, UCLA, Emory, UCSF, and Kaiser Permanente.