DESCRIPTION In this episode, Jo & Vicky are joined by Jason Light, Director at PACT (Professional Association of Canine Trainers). They provide ABTC recognised courses and a support network for dog trainers who want to build ethical, resilient practices that grow fast and stand the test of time. PACT is known for its welfare-first, science-led approach to assessing  and training dog professionals.  Today's conversation isn't about competing voices. It's about exploring how we can collectively support trainers and behaviourists to build sustainable, ethical practices that work for them. KEY TAKEAWAYS PACT training is a combination of online and in-person. It is a highly flexible and supportive way to learn. At PACT they find ways to tick multiple business strengthening and ethical boxes with one activity.  Imposter syndrome holds most trainers back. There are several root causes PACT will help you to overcome yours. Counter-intuitively, knowing how you can exit your business, e.g. sell it, is freeing and empowering. Collaboration, not competition, is the future of the dog training industry. Practical examples of this working in the real world are discussed.  Building sustainable, ethical practices is essential. Sustainable includes building a business that will provide you with an income for decades to come. Compassion fatigue is a key reason trainers leave the industry. PACT provides training and support to address this issue. For long term success, business skills are just as important as dog knowledge.   There are lots of ways to work that enable you to only do the things you like doing and are good at. Jason explains how. BEST MOMENTS “How can we have a truly sustainable business in every sense? - the financial sense, longevity, resilience, as well as the social and economic benefits that you can achieve.” “We’re seeing more behaviourists and trainers cross referring between each other.” “You can do it (PACT training) flexibly in your own time, but the in-person days are kind of fixed.” “We're really passionate about showing best practice... a really modern way of doing business.” “At PACT we find ways to tick multiple boxes with one activity.”  “I made a whole career out of finding fantastic people that do brilliant stuff and getting their support and paying them for it.” EPISODE RESOURCES https://www.pact-dogs.com Free taster courses - https://www.pact-dogs.com/pactfreecourses SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity/ Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705 Email hello@caninebusinessacademy.com ABOUT THE HOSTS Meet Jo and Vicky! They bring a combined 25 years of expertise in the canine industry. Jo, with a background in corporate business, and Vicky, a dedicated advocate for rescue organisations, form an unstoppable team. Beyond the mic, their lives are a whirlwind – managing two successful businesses, pursuing a full-time university degree, and parenting two little ones under four. Each of their homes combined is a lively menagerie, housing five dogs and an abundance of chickens. This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/