What if you could break down every cyberattack into just 7 steps?In this episode of Legitimate Cybersecurity, Frank and Dustin dive deep into the Cyber Kill Chain — Lockheed Martin’s 7-stage framework for understanding and stopping attacks — and compare it to the MITRE ATT&CK framework, hacker methodology, and even… honeypots, magicians, and Christopher Nolan films.We cover:The 7 stages: Recon, Weaponization, Delivery, Exploitation, Installation, C2, and Actions on ObjectivesWhy insurance companies make cyber defense harderWhy honeypots are the “magician’s trick” of cybersecurityHow to explain attacks to executives so they actually careTangents about Comic-Con, The Simpsons, Star Trek, and South Park (because of course we did)Whether you’re a seasoned pro or just cyber-curious, this episode makes frameworks fun. And dangerous. And maybe slightly nerdy.💬 Drop your favorite Kill Chain phase in the comments!#CyberKillChain #CyberSecurity #EthicalHacking #MITREATTACK #PenTesting #InfoSec #Honeypots #CyberInsurance #CyberDefense #NIST #LockheedMartin #LegitimateCybersecurityPodcastChapter List00:00 – Welcome & accidental name change to “The Cyber Kill Chain Podcast”00:37 – Comic-Con chaos & nerd solidarity01:40 – What is the Cyber Kill Chain? (And why Lockheed Martin made it)03:18 – Cyber Kill Chain vs. MITRE ATT&CK: Different perspectives05:22 – Insurance nightmares & cyber policy loopholes08:03 – The 7 stages explained (Recon → Actions on Objectives)14:42 – Framework overload & mapping standards18:59 – Real-world pen test insights & APT patience21:19 – Teaching grad students & professor naming quirks23:03 – AI politeness, South Park, and AI “relationships”25:01 – Cybersecurity fatigue & losing the funding edge28:22 – Where defenders can actually break the Kill Chain29:41 – Honeypots: magician’s trick or wizard’s weapon?34:42 – Christopher Nolan, The Prestige, and Wireshark wizardry38:13 – Why conveying frameworks simply wins the boardroom40:26 – Wrapping up: Vote for us & leave your questions