
Leena caught up with entrepreneur and author of Be More Pirate, Sam Conniff Allende to talk about how businesses like Unilever can be more pirate.
Sam is the founder of Livity, a social enterprise and youth-led creative network. His new book, "How to be More Pirate", is out now.
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Watch the interview (with added outtakes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-eJIoDkgcI&t=3s
NB. This interview was done long before Covid-19 and the lockdown.