Jean interviews Minal Bopaiah, author of Equity: How to Design Organizations Where Everyone Thrives. She has much to say about the long and complicated path for DEI.

Key highlights:

• why equity is not the same as equality,
• how ableism is the most entrenched source of oppression, and
• three obstacles to discussing systemic racism:
• progress and personalization narrative,
• belief in rugged individualism, and
• the separate lives, separate fates narrative

Minal shows how the US benefits from other countries' publically funded education systems by recruiting their skilled workers, despite often opposing similar "socialized" education at home. This practice contributed to the "model minority" stereotype.

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⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jean Latting⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.