In this episode of Leadership Matters, we sit down with Craig Warren, CEO of Washburn Center for Children, for a powerful conversation about what it means to lead with courage, curiosity, and care, especially when the environment feels chaotic.

Craig’s leadership journey has been anything but linear. From his formative experiences in the U.S. military to his work in nonprofit leadership, he’s learned that no book or training fully prepares you for the moments when things don’t go your way. Drawing from both the battlefield and the boardroom, Craig shares how those early lessons taught him to “keep moving” through uncertainty and to cultivate resilience rooted in purpose.

Together, we explore how he’s navigated what he calls “crisis stacking,” why he believes in energy management over time management, and how curiosity fuels his ability to stay grounded and forward-looking as a leader. Craig also brings his passion for mental health advocacy to the conversation, offering insights into early interventions that build healthier children, and, ultimately, a healthier society and workforce.

If you care about leading through complexity without losing your humanity, this conversation will remind you that the most courageous leaders are the ones who stay curious, keep moving, and lead with heart.