This is an extra episode of the Leaders in Finance podcast, recorded in the run-up to the FLAIRS Event on October 3, 2025. This year’s theme, “The Power to Pivot: Banking for Resilience and Renewal,” looks at how banks can adapt to an uncertain world, embrace innovation, and stay relevant for future generations. In this episode, our guests share their thoughts on what resilience and renewal mean in practice, and how these ideas could shape the future of the sector. Joining this special episode are: Pieter-Jan Bakker, Chair of FLAIRS and Business Consultant at ING Damla Hendriks, Chief Risk Officer and Managing Board Member at Van Lanschot Kempen Yorick Naeff, CEO and Co-Founder of BUX (now part of ABN AMRO) Dieuwertje de Rover, Lead Wholesale Banking Strategy at Rabobank Isil Evlioglu, Head of Private Individuals at ING Netherlands   ***Leaders in Finance is made possible by the support of Kayak, EY, Mogelijk Vastgoedfinancieringen, Roland Berger and Lepaya More information about our partners is available at our partner page.    ***Also listen to:Episode #88 with Yorick Naeff (CEO BUX)   ***  Want to stay up to date with Leaders in Finance? Subscribe to the newsletter.   ***  Questions, suggestions, or feedback? We'd love to hear from you! You can reach us via email at info@leadersinfinance.nl and check out our website.   *** Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Frank Elderson (directie ECB), David Knibbe (CEO NN), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Jos Baeten (CEO ASR), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Gita Salden (CEO BNG Bank),  Annerie Vreugdenhil (CIO ING), Karien van Gennip (CEO VGZ), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos), Chantal Vergouw (CEO Interpolis), Geert Lippens (CEO BNP Paribas NL), Simone Huis in 't Veld (CEO Euronext), Nout Wellink (ex DNB), Onno Ruding (ex minister van financiën), Maurice Oostendorp en Martijn Gribnau (CEOs Volksbank), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Bestuursvoorzitter AFM) Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (Commissaris, o.a.  Rabobank en Achmea), Peter Paul de Vries (CEO Value8), Barbara Baarsma (CEO Rabo Carbon Bank), Jan van Rutte (Commissaris PGGM, BNG Bank, vml CFO ABN AMRO), Marguerite Soeteman-Reijnen (Chair Aon Holdings), Annemarie Jorritsma (o.a. Voorzitter NVP), Lidwin van Velden (CEO Waterschapsbank), Don Ginsel (CEO Holland Fintech), Jan-Willem van der Schoot (CEO Mastercard NL), Tjeerd Bosklopper (CEO NN NL), Joanne Kellermann (Chair PFZW), Steven Maijoor (Chair ESMA), Radboud Vlaar (CEO Finch Capital), Karin van Baardwijk (CEO Robeco) en Annette Mosman (CEO APG).