In this conversation, Marlene Lowe interviews Pauline Radcliffe, Chief Executive of the SCQF Partnership, discussing her diverse career journey, the importance of values in leadership, and the challenges faced in aligning personal ethics with professional responsibilities. They explore the concept of recognition of prior learning as a solution to workforce development and the impact of rising costs on education and employment. The discussion also highlights the role of technology in shaping the future of business and education, emphasizing the need for adaptability and collaboration in a rapidly changing environment. In this conversation, Marlene Lowe and Pauline Jean Radcliffe explore the themes of sustainability in business practices, the importance of vocational education, corporate responsibility in employment, and the nuances of effective leadership. They discuss the need for a shift in Scotland's educational policies to recognize diverse learning pathways and the role of businesses in adapting to changing workforce needs. The conversation also delves into the value of failure in leadership and the importance of adaptability in leadership styles to meet the needs of different situations and individuals.