Distinguished Professor Dr Vanessa Dennen is an international expert in education, with a specific focus on instructional systems and learning technologies at Florida State University. Her scholarship dates back to the early days of online education, as does her ‘people first, content second, technology third’ approach. Interview: https://episodes.castos.com/onlinelearninglegends/e353214d-a9a7-4fb5-a387-031f6d614039-088-Vanessa-Dennen.mp3 | recorded July 2023 Vanessa’s profile: https://cehhs.fsu.edu/vanessa-dennen Vanessa’s blog: https://vanessadennen.com/blog/ Vanessa’s Google Scholar account: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=fkGwM8YAAAAJ Vanessa’s publications and presentations (some may require purchase): https://vanessadennen.com/recent-publications-and-presentations/ Additional access to works: https://meme.create.fsu.edu/publications-presentations/ MEME Research Group website: https://meme.create.fsu.edu/