In their transition from working women to working mothers, Erin Smith and Saphina Benimadhu-Waters both had unique but challenging return-to-work experiences that didn’t support them in the way they needed. Now, as co-founders of The Debut Co., they provide professional coaching to help parents take charge of their career journey and help organizations champion equity. They describe a truly equitable workplace as one where a person of any gender can be a caregiver and earn equal pay for equal work.    In this episode, Saphina and Erin sit down with Co.CEOs Jeff and Pablo to talk about how they’re working to help people operationalize their power within the workplace to create individual and systemic change.     Mentioned in this episode:  Power dynamics  The CLEAR coaching model  For the Love of Men by Liz Plank (book)   Pay Up by Reshma Saujani (book)  Daily Stoic (newsletter)  Diary of a CEO (podcast)    The Leaderful Podcast explores the use of power within teams and organizations, through the stories and perspectives of impact-conscious leaders who are disrupting outdated thinking, systems, and ways of working.    Have an idea for other topics you think we should be exploring? We’d love to hear it! Here’s where you can find us:   Website  Email  LinkedIn