In this episode Itiel hosts Veeam experts Julia and Michael, to share their distinct paths into cloud-native technology. Julia discusses her transition from a background in law and marketing to becoming a CNCF ambassador and AWS container hero. Michael, a veteran who has been with Veeam for over 10 years, details his traditional CIS admin background (virtualization, storage) and the evolution of this role into platform engineering. We explore the critical need for backup and data resilience, which is often the last thing companies consider in cloud-native application deployment. The discussion covers why backup serves as the essential insurance policy against modern threats like ransomware, emphasizing the importance of application consistency and data portability across multiple platforms, including Kubernetes, SaaS, and public cloud services.