In our latest episode of the Kinder Conversations podcast Tim Keogh had the opportunity to speak to Dan Winter-Bates, Head of Inclusion and Sustainability with NHS Hampshire and Isle of Wight Integrated Care Board, about vulnerability and mental health. This may just be our most open, raw conversation on the podcast so far..   Tune in to hear: 🔵 A great analogy about mindfulness and holding on to behaviour that does not serve us well 🟣 Where vulnerability and kindness coincide 🔵 The importance of stepping outside your echo chamber 🟣 Dan’s lived experience with suppressing emotions and masking 🔵 The importance of the journey and not seeking an end destination 🟣 How vulnerability can be an opportunity for healthcare leaders 🔵 What Dan has done to make his world kinder and how he balances working full-time in the NHS and touring worldwide in a metal band