Cheryl Eddy, News Editor for io9 and Gizmodo, stops by the Satellite of Val to talk about Kilmer's role as a space janitor in one of 2000's two Mars sci-fi extravaganzas, Red Planet. We chat about missed opportunities, cardboard characters and AI ladies doing it for themselves. We also play a game where we try to tell the difference between the moon and Mars. It's harder than you think!