In our second installment of our Ask the Experts series, Dr. Val and Dr. Virginia ask a very important question about how to avoid or at least mitigate burnout. So many of us have faced seasons of running on empty, being overwhelmed, and feeling unsure of our effectiveness. We feel guilt and frustration, often wondering if we should just quit.  Two of our previous guests give us advice about how we can find rhythms to help us guard against burnout. #kidmin #childrensministry #preschoolministry #burnout #overwhelm #administration #dailyrhythms #sabbath #support Rev. Kayla Smith is the Associate Director of Reach Hurting Kids Institute and serves at Trevecca Community Church of the Nazarene as Pastor of Intergenerational Discipleship. She spends most of her time tagging along on her five-year-old's adventures. Kayla draws from her background in leadership and special education to empower churches to embody Christ's love to every child. She leads workshops, trains children's and youth teams, and consults with leaders about trauma-informed practices in the Church.   reachhurtingkids.com/workshop kayla@reachhurtingkids.com     Dr. Teresa Roberts is Professor of Ministry and Christian Formation, Program Director of Children’s Ministry, and a vice president at Ozark Christian College. She is an expert in children’s spiritual formation training with more than 30 years of ministry experience. Dr. Roberts holds a Master of Arts in Family and Youth Ministry, a Master of Divinity, and a Doctor of Ministry. She serves in children’s ministry at Carterville Christian Church where she attends with her husband and step-daughter. Website:  www.DrTeresaRoberts.com Email: teresawelchroberts@gmail.com Book available: all major booksellers NavPress (publisher) https://www.navpress.com/p/raising-disciples/9781641588638 See "Related Sites and Resources" for the free 8-week Parenting Discipleship Curriculum/Small Group Guide