No Such Thing as A Muslim Ummah | Esposito & Juergensmeyer in ConversationWhat does it mean to speak of a Muslim Ummah in a world of fractured states, rising sectarianism, and diverging national interests? In this special episode, I bring together two of the most renowned scholars of religion and politics, Professor John L. Esposito and Professor Mark Juergensmeyer, for a joint conversation exploring the metaphysical, political, and religious underpinnings of the modern Middle East.This is the first time both guests appear together on the same episode.Individually, they have shared their insights in past interviews:▶️ Episode 20 – Mark Juergensmeyer: https://youtu.be/r7TjTR3VAtY?si=TP6qYNgSlDKy4A3W▶️ Episode 21 – John Esposito: https://youtu.be/LX2zH2Cur2s?si=_LMnShLrVoSxLQS8🎙 Topics Discussed:Is there such a thing as a Muslim or Islamic Ummah today?How does the secularisation thesis apply to the Muslim world.Nation-states, sectarian conflict, and the limits of pan-Islamic identity.Sunni-Shia tensions: structural, political, or theological?The Iran-Israel 12-day war and its implications for the region.The role of the Iranian Revolution and Saudi Wahhabism in shaping the modern Middle East.The myth of Muslim exceptionalism in religious conflict—comparisons with Northern Ireland and beyond.Effects of the 12 day war between Iran and israel.How and when will the atrocities in Gaza end?👤 About Professor Mark JuergensmeyerMark Juergensmeyer is a world-renowned scholar of global religion and politics. He is Professor Emeritus of Sociology and Global Studies at the University of California, Santa Barbara, and has authored numerous influential works on religion and violence.🔗 Weblog: https://www.juergensmeyer.org📚 Selected Works:Why God Needs War and War Needs God (Oxford University Press, 2023)➤ https://global.oup.com/academic/product/why-god-needs-war-and-war-needs-god-9780197795804When God Stops Fighting (University of California Press, 2022)➤ https://www.ucpress.edu/books/when-god-stops-fighting/paperTerror in the Mind of God (University of California Press)🆕 Forthcoming: What Everyone Needs to Know About Religion and Violence (Oxford University Press)👤 About Professor John L. EspositoJohn Esposito is University Professor of Religion and International Affairs and Founding Director of the Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University. He is one of the most respected voices on Islam, global affairs, and interfaith dialogue.📚 Selected Works:The Future of IslamWho Speaks for Islam? What a Billion Muslims Really Think (co-authored with Dalia Mogahed)Islam and PoliticsIslamophobia: The Challenge of Pluralism in the 21st Century📌 Subscribe for more conversations on Islam, politics, and the global order.🎧 Also available on podcast platforms – search “Kianistan.”Visit us at: 🌐 www.kianistan.comSupport our sponsors: 💼 www.worldwidelistings.co.uk #MiddleEast #Ummah #Esposito #Juergensmeyer #IslamicPolitics #Sectarianism #IranIsrael #MuslimWorld #ReligionAndViolence