In this segment of the podcast KalaSun, Host Antonia speak on the benefits of Astrology, Numerology, and Tarot in her path to divinity, and explore the religious band of psychics and other spiritually gifted people. She also talk about her victory over black magic and the use of spiritual baths and prayers in her healing. She suggest that women tend to be more linked with medium ship and other abilities historically as way to have power denied to them by male dominated institutions. Christian women can use the esoteric as tools to empower themselves. Doing this does not change her belief in Christ.