In this episode, Shaazia Ebrahim speaks to the outgoing leadership of the Climate Justice Coalition, as they reflect on the challenges, rewards, and lessons learnt from having led and grown the coalition from when it was just beginning just over five years ago. Mbali Baduza and Alex Lenferna, the outgoing and inaugural deputy and general secretary of the coalition speak about the challenges of movement building, the importance of mental health, the need to be radical, and so much more. The conversation gives open, honest, and heartfelt insights into the difficulties, rewards, and lessons of leadership, especially for younger people thrust into positions of hefty responsibility at the forefront of movements. This episode comes out just as the new leadership of the Climate Justice Coalition is taking the helm and is a useful resource to help the new leadership of the coalition, and the movement more broadly, navigate this challenging time ahead where the climate crisis intersects with so many urgent challenges.