Sat down with Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, to discuss all things artificial intelligence. Few have been as embedded in AI's modern era, as he co-founded both DeepMind in 2010 (acquired by Google in 2014) and Inflection AI in 2022. So, down the rabbit hole we go.
Chapters
0:00 - If an AI-focused career path was clear to him
2:11 - The relationship between Microsoft and OpenAI
4:51 - AI research labs vs AI companies
7:16 - Elaborating on response to protestors
9:22 - AI’s use in the government
15:24 - The relationship between tech and government leaders
17:25 - The pros and cons of open-source models
22:48 - Will AI be “winner takes all”
26:08 - Gatekeeping
27:28 - Optimism and pessimism as limiting biases
30:31 - How our time online may change
33:29 - Are AI companions helping or hurting current human voids
38:21 - Advising young people’s emotional relationship with AI
41:56 - How human-to-human interaction may change
46:16 - How the average person can use the “Think deeper” feature
48:05 - What you shouldn’t tell your AI
49:32 - AI’s social intelligence
50:52 - The future of opting in and out of your relationship with AI
54:43 - The potential of humans not needing to “work”
59:23 - Future income, incentives, and payment structures
1:03:22 - What you should know about containment
1:06:14 - Outro
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Key terms from “The Coming Wave”
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The 10 steps toward containment
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